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the thing is, i mean, the other thing, is if you really think that the tools and technologies which made the web great never left us, why do you speak about the death of the web as primarily a technological phenomenon? if we have the tools, but have all collectively decided to stop using them, surely there is something else going on? something important?
@gaditb i agree and disagree. the part of me that is a tech worker is on board with this take 100%; the internet is made up of lots of people with little passion technologies they built or hosted that served little niches but all interlinked together as part of a broader Web. absolutely
but i think this is a biased perspective. the internet was/is not good because of its technology. it was never good because of its technology. the only reason the technology mattered at all is because it hosted people and culture. who were those people, and what drove that culture? isn’t it presumptuous to say we can bring the culture of the 90s back as tho it never left? and when you look at all the people who don’t have tech backgrounds who used to have the time, energy, and freedom to contribute to the Web: how many still have the time? the energy? the freedom? they, not the technologists, were the source of what mattered
it was your apathy that got us in this situation, and now you think you can save us from it? you, who can’t even properly name what was lost
no, career internet user, the people who made the internet good are not you
the people who made the internet good are not here anymore, and you can not bring them back
do you really think you and the people who read your bland {career internet user}⹀level takes are a workable substitute?
i’m tired of career internet users posting thinkpieces like “the internet used to be good! now it’s bad! we can make it good again!”
no, you can’t, an essay in three parts :—
• you say the internet was good? what made it good? more importantly, WHO?
• what happened to those people?
• what is stopping that from happening to those people again?
@coriander having read fanfiction, i believe this
@Satsuma @wallhackio @aescling our public library had it on kanopy; it was pretty easy to stream
@coriander it’s possible they were different years, like it could have been hatchet was a 4th grade book and my side of the mountain was definitely 5th
@coriander i think we read both in the same year honestly
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@coriander people still make other kinds of movies but they won't see the return, so they don't get the budgets, so they wind up not being as good, so they're less willing to make more
@coriander it's something you mostly only hear about in reference to romcoms (which have been dead for several decades at this point) but they were just the beginning
action movies are big rn because you don't need to understand the subtle ironies of american culture to enjoy guns and explosions
@wallhackio yeah that's part of the depressing thing—even when good things are released (which they undoubtedly are) it doesn't feel like they're in conversation with a broader culture so what is there to say beyond “yep. good film”
there are tons of talented artists but there is no scene
@coriander comedy in general is a really tough sell right now because it doesn't internationalize well and nobody is willing to make anything which isn't going to stream in at least 20 countries
@coriander i think Big Bang was the last culturally impactful sitcom which is extremely sad
what a way for an artform to go
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