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@gaditb oh i mean i would say i care most about whatever most speaks to you, or whatever you think most speaks to me, or something socially contingent along those lines

@gaditb no, never heard of them

a good software collective is established with two primary goals :⁠—

1. creating good software

2. generating a public record of documents which demonstrate the process of making good software

considering this, one might be forgiven for thinking that there must exist an overabundance of tools for generating and proliferating documentation on the creation of software. after all, this is a problem that every good software collective must solve. however,

really, the issue is that i am not part of a collective

@gaditb the expectation that this process of refinement has occurred, not as a temporal sequence of updates but as an editorial control over the entire breadth of the text, is something i think we are often missing

@gaditb in contrast, if you send me a text document over the internet i am going to assume it is a complete text document and that the authorship of the text document has edited it so that the end lines up with the beginning and that it is transmitting an internally consistent (or intentionally inconsistent) message, unless otherwise stated

@gaditb i think i would define a document, in this context, as something for which no part of it is published until every part of it is published

for some definition of “published” which does not preclude collaboration

the internet is full of append-only logs. the beginnings and ends of these logs are not published at the same time, so they cannot be treated as temporally fixed works. but this changes how we interact with them pretty significantly, i think

@gaditb yeah in fairness this might be a false dichotomy

@gaditb you could argue social media is “just sharing documents” but the culture of social media is not documentary. it is about forming shared experiences. and this extends to most aspects of the internet i think

@gaditb i think if i was to sum up my feelings on the internet in a short pithy phrase it is that we have created an experiential culture, one where you share experiences with others, not a documentary culture, one where you share documents

and i guess i just don’t think the experiential internet is all that good. i could use more documents

@gaditb you were not being subtooted haha i was complaining about the current state of internet culture mostly

i would like to exchange text files on the internet