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@gaditb the goal for version 2 is to make it generic across XML and use it as a DSL for various XML-based formats

i have the "generic" part done but haven't finished the "rewrite the parser in javascript" part

» You know, the more you think "I can still keep going!", the more you need to rest. People say that to me a lot, too…

— Professor Burnet

@gaditb i do do that mostly haha but there's https://github.com/marrus-sh/MarketCommons-Racket

the repo is archived because i've been working on a much more powerful v2 but it's a bit stalled at the moment

ever consider learning from that

« David [Brooks]: Then the establishment got discredited (Iraq War, financial crisis, the ossifying of the meritocracy, the widening values gap between metro elites and everybody else) » damn yeah y’all sure did take some L’s there didn’t ya

@gaditb are you aware that i created a Not Markdown because, same

sorry, “long-s revivaliſt”

sure i make fun of the thorn revivalist crowd from time to time but the folks i really don’t get are the long-s revivalist crowd

sorry this was supposed to be a DM to professor burnet

hey babe, tea is steeping, mind if i poof some dream clouds and harvest some orbs?

@gaditb @jalefkowit@octodon.social @aparrish like descriptively, MDN is first and foremost an instructional resource. its job is to get people writing correct HTML quickly. it's not to explain why things are the way they are

is that the correct mission? should there be more room for the other stuff? 🤷🏻‍♀️

@gaditb @jalefkowit@octodon.social @aparrish i think there's a disconnect happening here regarding whether the purpose of documentation is to explain or instruct :P

@gaditb @aparrish @jalefkowit@octodon.social mm i think this is where the plurality of the HTML spec comes into play

for AUTHORS, the HTML spec is meant as a style guide for “good, proper HTML”. it's prescriptive, not descriptive. so they are saying “use A for X; use B for Y” not “A means X; B means Y”.

for IMPLEMENTERS, the HTML spec takes on a descriptive role. but there are no implementation requirements on these elements aside from the default stylesheet; from the perspective of an implementation, <b>/<i> aren’t required to mean anything.

anyway see https://tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/CO.html#COHQ if you want an example of an actually good, consistent, and semantic methodology for marking this stuff up; HTML is pretty far from being actually semantic markup in fact

@gaditb @aparrish @jalefkowit@octodon.social
wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emphasis_mark
MDN for the text-emphasis CSS property: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/text-emphasis

@gaditb @aparrish @jalefkowit@octodon.social i mean it's more that after committing to the bit of using <em> and <strong> for everything (in HTML4) some folks were like “okay but that actually DOESN’T work for everything we used to use <i> and <b> for” and so they had to walk it back

the names are afaik an MDN invention to make them easier to learn (since “bold” and “italics” is incorrect)—the spec just calls them “the b element” and “the i element”

as for why “bold” and “italics” is wrong—remember that other scripts exist than Latin and they need to be representable in HTML too :)

[using chinese emphasis marks to denote a scientific name for a species would be, i believe, profoundly incorrect]

@Lilith this is true of gay liberation in general though

@gaditb
sympathetic reading: most tankies are fine actually and care more about organizing and helping people than your average liberal, despite having politically‐incorrect authoritarian takes

less‐sympathetic reading: the desire to avoid appearing bourgeois sometimes prevents the people who do good things from speaking about them in good ways, because they conflate cultural sensitivity with liberalism

musical reading: https://youtu.be/pEGZqsB8nm0

common reading: the insight that words and actions don’t always line up goes both ways

don’t take “communist friends” too literally; i’d say “comrades” if i meant my actual crew