its so fucking cool that the tutorial im following for installing ruby doesn't work with modern versions of ubuntu that is so sick
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@wallhackio What does the Clodsire need Ruby for? Also, what's the error message. Perhaps, the Vaporeon can try to help...
@vaporeon_ I fixed it
I am learning ruby on rails for job hunt purposes
@vaporeon_ I need to manually compile an older version of OpenSSL because Ruby doesn't like the newer versions. I also had to manually install something called libyaml, and install a couple packages (libffi-dev, build-essential, checkinstall, zlib1g-dev)
@wallhackio @vaporeon_ btw Ruby can definitely build against current OpenSSL so idk what your toolchain is doing but it seems kinda bad
@wallhackio @vaporeon_ also
doesn’t ubuntu have Ruby in its repositories? why couldn’t you just apt install ruby?
@Lady @aescling @wallhackio @vaporeon_ I usually prefer system Ruby because you can mostly just say "it's the Ubuntu LTS' version of Ruby" and be fine for a couple of years, but yeah if you have to switch versions you'll wish you had done RVM (or I guess rbenv) instead. (There's also the "screw it, I'm using the official Ruby Docker images", which is vaguely okay too, but obviously more work to set up for small stuff.)
@aschmitz @aescling @wallhackio @vaporeon_ it was a medium deal during the ruby 2 to 3 upgrade when many older repositories were not yet ruby 3 compatible. i mostly haven't had compatibility issues since then and 3 to 4 seems like less of a jump, so unless you are on bullseye for some reason system ruby might be ok
@Lady @aescling @wallhackio @vaporeon_ Yeah, I follow the Ruby news and it's occasionally annoying having to wait for a point release's features, but it's a tradeoff for not having to think about it that often. Reasonable options abound!
@Lady @aescling @vaporeon_ the tutorial I followed use some package manager named Mise because, according to the tutorial, it "allows you to easily update Ruby and switch between versions anytime."
@wallhackio @aescling @vaporeon_ girls don’t want switch between ruby versions at any time girls want multi ruby release channel drifting thru shell PATH hacks
@wallhackio @Lady @vaporeon_ when i saw that the tutorial used a Ruby installer i had never heard of befur i was like “okay well there’s your purroblem”. rbenv is pretty good, just use that
@aescling @vaporeon_ maybe. i was just following the tutorial at https://gorails.com/setup/windows/11
@wallhackio @aescling Reported for not using the Debian that your sister installed for you
And double-reported for using Windows 11 instead of whatever the earliest version of Windows is that you can get away with if you absolutely have to use Windows
@vaporeon_ @aescling sorry i am creature of habit and therefore stuck using windo-ohs at the present
@wallhackio @vaporeon_ @aescling what is that, a cereal
@The_T @vaporeon_ @aescling i wonder what a cereal named windo-ohs would taste like
@The_T @wallhackio @vaporeon_ “made of only the most finely burnt Clodsires!”
@aescling @wallhackio @vaporeon_ oh, that will really affect it's ability to Earthquake
@wallhackio @aescling The existence of Windo-oh implies the existence of Win-upaa 
@aescling @wallhackio @vaporeon_ i recommend using rbenv rather than installing ruby from a package manager because needing to switch ruby versions is common and a pain
rbenv says to install from git rather than use apt install because the latter is out of date