Satsuma @Satsuma@cat.family

@zkat @52square@artisan.chat for the record the fact that the “official” mastodon apps which use the same 3rd party api as every other app, and which make several design choices bad enough that new users are frequently warned to use a different app get money while none of the fantastic apps that have been around years longer than either of the “official” ones have never seen a cent also bothers me for similar reasons. If the patreon was just restricted to docs and the mastodon server software itself that’d be one thing but the current situation is horribly unbalanced

@52square@artisan.chat @zkat per the official patreon: «The code of the project is available on GitHub. Besides the development of Mastodon itself, we develop and maintain:

Official Mastodon app for iOS
Official Mastodon app for Android
Mastodon server mastodon.social, currently hosting over 693,000 users
Mastodon server mastodon.online, currently hosting over 93,000 users
joinmastodon.org, the homepage of the project and related APIs
docs.joinmastodon.org, the documentation for the project»

The reason why its mastodon.social and mastodon.online which get money from Mastodon gGmbH and no one else is because the lead developer/guy who runs gGmbH, Eugen, is also the admin of those two instances and he’s never minded playing favorites

@sysadmin1138@octodon.social yeah it’s the obvious one, just the fact that they included it as their own official example kinda wowed me. Like, not even pretending these will all be actual independent attesters in the system even in the proposal

@sysadmin1138@octodon.social just a random add on, the proposals default example of an attester is the Google Play store on android. So the plausible deniability you discuss might very well be an android phone (largely google) being attested by the “3rd party” Google Play (google) so they can watch videos on youtube (google) which makes money by selling advertisement space (also brokered by google)

Seems p obvious that it’s now in google’s best interest to quietly ask *themselves* to not attest adblock plugins, web browsers downloaded through alternative app stores, etc etc as “insecure”

@monorail @rowyn waiting mode is the worst! don’t understand how anyone handles it

@celli@octodon.social 75 technically, but in practice i turn it on and off manually as needed so probably closer to 78

@inametaphor oooh i love raspberry jam but i almost never end up making it — i hope yours is coming out well?

@soph_sol yeah i’m pretty far on the locked side of things, but i appreciate that i can make some stuff public when i want to! its much more flexible than twitters method

@soph_sol oh man there are so many diff kinds of “why havent i unsubscribed to this yet” endless WIP’s

that fic where the author didn’t update for a while and you keep meaning to reread bc you remember enjoying it but in the meanwhile the new chapters just keep piling up

author has taken a characterization in a direction you find moderately annoying but the updates aren’t *quite* long enough to hit your annoyance threshold (and by the time the next chapter comes out you’ve forgotten how bothered you were)

@packbat voted for option 3 but really it was more of a “option two is the most dissonant” situation

@s hey welcome!

@unspeakablehorror exactly!! and then he gets to talk about whatever weird twisted moral lessons he wants while the poor kid is fixing it

@maya tbf i am not sure i would ID the non-swash uppercase set as blackletter if it hadn’t literally just been introduced as such, so in that sense i suppose it has less connotations?

@unspeakablehorror depending on where it breaks down, he might find it a fantastic opportunity to practice some sithly manipulations on Anakin