is the middle class part of the working class

@Lady i believe we previously had a whole convo about if home ownership is enough to make someone petit bourgeoise (though i suppose this poll then requires a second convo about whether middle class requires sufficient wealth as to own a home. Wikipedia says at least a third of their income should be discretionary to qualify which implies they at least could be homeowners?)

@Satsuma middle class is historically considered homeowners but that’s been strongly challenged by millennials, altho maybe the middle class that aren’t homeowners are bourgeois in some other way

@Satsuma (there is also a question of if people who are in debt are truly homeowners but)

@Lady yeah i don’t know that petit bourgeoise is precisely the right word for “is sufficiently financially entrapped by the bourgeoise that it is in ones short term interests to side with the bourgeoise” which is more whats going on with mortgages etc

@Satsuma arguably all proletariat are this, with the possible exception of lumpenproles, for a short enough definition of “short term”