Lady, EVOLVED 
Working Families Party uses the terms “working class” for proletariat and “middle class” for bourgeoisie for obvious not wanting to look like communists reasons
@Lady i believe we previously had a whole convo about if home ownership is enough to make someone petit bourgeoise (though i suppose this poll then requires a second convo about whether middle class requires sufficient wealth as to own a home. Wikipedia says at least a third of their income should be discretionary to qualify which implies they at least could be homeowners?)
@Satsuma middle class is historically considered homeowners but that’s been strongly challenged by millennials, altho maybe the middle class that aren’t homeowners are bourgeois in some other way
@Satsuma (there is also a question of if people who are in debt are truly homeowners but)
@Lady yeah i don’t know that petit bourgeoise is precisely the right word for “is sufficiently financially entrapped by the bourgeoise that it is in ones short term interests to side with the bourgeoise” which is more whats going on with mortgages etc
@Lady I feel like the Brazilian marxists were talking about this but i dont remember the details of their argument lemme see if i can track something down
@Satsuma arguably all proletariat are this, with the possible exception of lumpenproles, for a short enough definition of “short term”
@Satsuma i think what differentiates homeowners is they have a long term path to the bourgeoisie laid out for them if they just keep playing along
@Lady hm thats fair. But also the interests of the bourgeoise are particularly keenly felt whilst along that path, eg. anyone with a mortgage is invested in low property taxes (which they must pay despite the bank owning their house)
or putting your retirement funds in a Roth IRA means you’re fucked if the tech sector go under, so i guess you better believe them when they say AI is the next bet!
Working Families Party distinguishes middle class from working class and upper class, implying they roughly equate it with the bourgeoisie, but the vernacular i always heard growing up was that lower/middle/upper class referred to financial precarity/security and not labour dynamics