hi @coriander do you want to hear my insane Dune hot take now that I finished the book
@coriander Dune and Attack on Titan are the same story
@wallhackio Never saw/read AOT
@wallhackio What I will say is that I know AOT ends up being weirdly fascist and Dune is specifically (and more clearly in the sequels because people didn't get it) a critique of the kind of white-saviour fascism Paul is doing
@coriander Dune had much better intent than AoT but that didn't stop the worst kinds of fan to reading the wrong things out of it
@coriander yeah I put a hold on it through the library when I learned this information
@wallhackio I would also recommend keeping going with the series but that's because I adore Frank's weirdness and by the time you read God-Emperor you realize that the first book was extremely normal by his standards
But not everyone is up for Frank's weirdness
@coriander I probably won't read the whole series because life is too short but still noted
@coriander anyway, aside from the fatphobia and homophobia surrounding the Baron I also had weird feelings about the idea that the Fremen are the most powerful fighting guys ever, it has some "hard times make great men" energy
@wallhackio Oh yeah the fatphobia and homophobia are fuckin awful, Frank did NOT like gay people lmao
There's a scene in God-Emperor where Duncan Idaho goes on a rampage because he saw two girls kissing, it's hilarious and it's NOT meant to be
@coriander yuri is too powerful to be seen by the weak-hearted
@wallhackio Also did you already know the stupid thing about Duncan Idaho later in the series or are you just rolling with that?
@coriander I have no idea what you're talking about
@wallhackio Oh, Duncan Idaho comes back in the later books
They keep cloning him
@wallhackio God-Emperor takes place like hundreds of years after Dune and Duncan is just there
@coriander Somehow, Duncan Idaho returned!
@wallhackio The vats of Ix is how
@wallhackio OH CALEB DO YOU KNOW THE THING ABOUT THE PLANET IX
@wallhackio This is my favourite piece of Dune Lore
@wallhackio So, the planet's name is pronounced like it's written, "icks"
But it's the 9th planet from its sun
Humanity has gone on for SO LONG that they have entirely forgotten Roman numerals and just call the planet Ix
@coriander @wallhackio that’s Good Lore
@aescling @wallhackio I love it so much, it just perfectly encapsulates everything about Dune
@coriander looooooooooooooooool
@coriander reminds me when I played The Forgotten City and there's a dildo in one characters room and the game, unironically, tells you it's a fertility idol and such things were common in roman culture
@wallhackio That's just archaeology
@coriander more like Vat of Icks
@coriander @wallhackio weak ass loser needs to keep getting cloned because he’s too fragile handle the yuri
@wallhackio If nothing else, you should also read Messiah, it makes it much more explicit that Paul is the bad guy
A ton of people hated it when it came out because of this =P