hi @coriander do you want to hear my insane Dune hot take now that I finished the book
@coriander Dune and Attack on Titan are the same story
@wallhackio Never saw/read AOT
@coriander sad white boy traumatized by the death of a parent stumbles into incredible powers, some of which include the ability to see through time. he forsees a future where he enacts great violence on all of living existence and proceeds to do exactly that
@wallhackio What I will say is that I know AOT ends up being weirdly fascist and Dune is specifically (and more clearly in the sequels because people didn't get it) a critique of the kind of white-saviour fascism Paul is doing
@coriander Dune had much better intent than AoT but that didn't stop the worst kinds of fan to reading the wrong things out of it
@wallhackio If nothing else, you should also read Messiah, it makes it much more explicit that Paul is the bad guy
A ton of people hated it when it came out because of this =P
@coriander yeah I put a hold on it through the library when I learned this information
@wallhackio I would also recommend keeping going with the series but that's because I adore Frank's weirdness and by the time you read God-Emperor you realize that the first book was extremely normal by his standards
But not everyone is up for Frank's weirdness
@coriander I probably won't read the whole series because life is too short but still noted
@coriander anyway, aside from the fatphobia and homophobia surrounding the Baron I also had weird feelings about the idea that the Fremen are the most powerful fighting guys ever, it has some "hard times make great men" energy
@wallhackio Oh yeah the fatphobia and homophobia are fuckin awful, Frank did NOT like gay people lmao
There's a scene in God-Emperor where Duncan Idaho goes on a rampage because he saw two girls kissing, it's hilarious and it's NOT meant to be
@coriander LOL
@coriander yuri is too powerful to be seen by the weak-hearted
@wallhackio SO true
@wallhackio Also did you already know the stupid thing about Duncan Idaho later in the series or are you just rolling with that?
@coriander I have no idea what you're talking about
@wallhackio Oh, Duncan Idaho comes back in the later books
They keep cloning him
@wallhackio God-Emperor takes place like hundreds of years after Dune and Duncan is just there
@coriander Somehow, Duncan Idaho returned!
@wallhackio The vats of Ix is how
@wallhackio OH CALEB DO YOU KNOW THE THING ABOUT THE PLANET IX
@wallhackio This is my favourite piece of Dune Lore
@coriander more like Vat of Icks
@coriander @wallhackio weak ass loser needs to keep getting cloned because he’s too fragile handle the yuri
@wallhackio Hit me