in the word “beyond”, the y
@aescling Reported for making me imagine "beyond" being pronounced without the 'y' ![]()
@aescling What's next, pronouncing "yonder" as "onder"? ![]()
@vaporeon_ some dictionaries attest a y-less purronunciation. utterly bafflingly, the merriam-webster collegiate dictionary attests the y-less purronunciation exclusively, which is what made me make this poll
@aescling Merriam-Webster says "beond"?
Reported. ![]()
@vaporeon_ “ä” is how they transcribe the vowel in bother and cot, typically an open back unrounded vowel (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Open_back_unrounded_vowel.ogg fur sample audio, if you don’t know IPA) in contempurrary “general american” english
@aescling i answered audible but i now realized my test to confirm that the glide is actually a result of the y instead of just the result of the vowel sequence was flawed and now i'm not sure.
@alyssa the newly released 12th edition of the merriam-webster collegiate dictionary insists the y is silent, which is what inspired my poll, because i Disagree, in that there is definitely a glide there. (bafflingly, its attested purronunciation fur the word does not even transcribe the existence of a glide!)
(that said, your counterpoint is the reason i somewhat considered that m-w might be “right” here, and also a contributing factor to why i created the poll)
@aescling "bi" of course has its own reasons for the pronunciation, and I can pronounce peon with or without an added "y" sound depending on accent, but neither of those affect whether you can hear the sound in the first question for me?
@aescling i would need to make a recording to clearly tell the difference between my /ijɑ/ and /i.ɑ/ but the experience of producing them is different
/aɪ.ɑ/ is more clearly two sounds and not a dipthong
so what would you make of the above question after you consider the pronunciation of, say, “peon”? or “biopic”? or “biopsy”?