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in the word “beyond”, the y

so what would you make of the above question after you consider the pronunciation of, say, “peon”? or “biopic”? or “biopsy”?

@aescling Reported for making me imagine "beyond" being pronounced without the 'y' :clodsire_angy:

@vaporeon_ some dictionaries attest a y-less purronunciation. utterly bafflingly, the merriam-webster collegiate dictionary attests the y-less purronunciation exclusively, which is what made me make this poll

@aescling Not even "be ond", they're pronouncing it "be and"?
In any case, Merriam Webster is reported with maximum Clodsire energy :clodsire_angy: :clodsire_angy: :clodsire_angy:

@vaporeon_ “ä” is how they transcribe the vowel in bother and cot, typically an open back unrounded vowel (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ope fur sample audio, if you don’t know IPA) in contempurrary “general american” english

@aescling i answered audible but i now realized my test to confirm that the glide is actually a result of the y instead of just the result of the vowel sequence was flawed and now i'm not sure.

@alyssa the newly released 12th edition of the merriam-webster collegiate dictionary insists the y is silent, which is what inspired my poll, because i Disagree, in that there is definitely a glide there. (bafflingly, its attested purronunciation fur the word does not even transcribe the existence of a glide!)

(that said, your counterpoint is the reason i somewhat considered that m-w might be “right” here, and also a contributing factor to why i created the poll)

@aescling "bi" of course has its own reasons for the pronunciation, and I can pronounce peon with or without an added "y" sound depending on accent, but neither of those affect whether you can hear the sound in the first question for me?

@aescling i would need to make a recording to clearly tell the difference between my /ijɑ/ and /i.ɑ/ but the experience of producing them is different

/aɪ.ɑ/ is more clearly two sounds and not a dipthong

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