my roommates are forcing me to learn shell scripting 
@wallhackio Contrary to Cat Family, er, dogma, it is entirely possible to live a fulfilling life with Linux while understanding a very minimal amount of shell scripting. (I can read it, can't really write loops from scratch off the top of my head though.)
You probably do need *some* kind of scripting language. But Ruby or Python are fine.
@aschmitz @wallhackio the roommate in question was actually @Lady who does not use linux at all
@Satsuma @wallhackio @Lady I could be flippant and say "I didn't want to make representations about having a fulfilling life with MacOS."
@Satsuma @wallhackio @Lady But also "you can do whatever you want on generic Unices without shell scripting while being entirely portable" is, arguably, a harder case to make, but also not one most people really have to do unless they particularly want to.
@aschmitz @Satsuma @wallhackio honestly if you want to be portable ruby is likely a better bet than shell
@Lady @Satsuma @wallhackio As well he should! I'm already annoyed at significant whitespace in Python, I don't know if I could take significant tabs.
@aschmitz @Satsuma @wallhackio i am not particularly good at shell scripting but that’s because i abstract all the control logic into GNU Make syntax but Caleb already rejected that one