@vaporeon_ reported for suggesting there is something worse than c++.

@vaporeon_ @wallhackio if the standard library APIs were good i would think java is pretty decent

@aescling @vaporeon_ there is a "purity" to java i somewhat admire in how hard it commits to object-oriented programming but i would be lying if i said i found it enjoyable to write

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@aescling @vaporeon_ and while i love python and javascript once you start looking into internals they get complicated and ugly and weird, while java is like the opposite. its unwieldy and ugly but the advanced features are usually fairly straightforward to learn

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