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I don't "need to" do any of that, I can just leave your web site

Leave your web site and judge you for making an "app" for something that totally could've been a static website...

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@vaporeon_ making a modern web site is such a pain in the ass using so many layers of frameworks and abstractions that some new web developers don't even know how to make static websites anymore

@vaporeon_ (its me. after i came out of my web developer boot camp i didn't know how to make a static web site)

@wallhackio WHAT :blobcathissing:
What even is the point of "web developer boot camp" if they don't teach you the most important part of the web, which it all is based on, the HTML (and how to put it online on a web server)

@vaporeon_ one could spend the rest of their life understanding the nuances of the useEffect hook in react

@vaporeon_ and i mean, a lot of modern web frameworks aren't all that different from using a new language that compiles to HTML + CSS + JavaScript

@vaporeon_ i do now how to do it now, don't worry lmao. but a lot of modern website design is learning to operator a hydraulic press to hammer a nail, when you could've just used a hammer

@vaporeon_ I want to clarify that there is a place for complex web frameworks. The reason they exist is that using JavaScript and the DOM for extremely complex interactivity just... sucks. These frameworks wouldn't exist if people enjoyed using the DOM for complicated applications

The issue is when people are using these gigantic frameworks to build single page applications for your personal website that is a single page showing off your projects. Like, the plot has been completely lost at that point

@wallhackio @vaporeon_ I'm gonna make a cool website that's nothing but HTML

but it'll suck cuz it'll mostly still just be a bunch of links to YouTube videos

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