@vaporeon_ @aescling You could tell me you don't know how to move the cursor with the letters and it would still not change my opinion. There's no amount of text editor knowledge you can lack that amounts to a personal failure

@amy @aescling Yes it does, I am a programmer and a text editor is the most basic tool that any programmer is expected to know

Claiming to be programmer while not knowing how to use a text editor is actually extremely embarassing and I should be ashamed of myself

@vaporeon_ @aescling Would you send a post right now that said "Amy, you should be ashamed of yourself"? I know pressing escape in vim changes some kind of "mode" but I don't know what the different modes do.

@amy @aescling I guess you use a different text editor, then? And that you know that text editor well?

@vaporeon_ @aescling Fine

Would you say "Amy, you should be ashamed of yourself" because I write code in VSC for a living but I don't know how to run it from my editor? I use my mouse to click on the terminal and run it there. I know it's possible, I just haven't learned it.

@vaporeon_ @aescling It's probably just a keyboard shortcut. But I'm not that proficient with VSC.

@amy @aescling You point that out and you don't even go find out what the keyboard shortcut is?

I wouldn't tell Amy to be ashamed of herself because holding other people to the same standard as myself is a recipe for disaster and will everyone hate me even more than they already do, but I am surprised that you're OK with not knowing the keybinding and aren't going to look it up right now
Do you not want to know your tools well?

It's still embarassing for me to be bad at Vim
Imagine if I said that I don't know how to use a hammer or a screwdriver or a multimeter, that would be very embarassing, surely we can agree on that
So what makes text editor different, except that it exists on the computer instead of in physical space

@vaporeon_ @aescling Are you under the impression that I know how to use a multimeter?

@amy @aescling Do you do anything with electronics at all? I would expect someone who does anything with electronics at all to know how to...

@vaporeon_ @aescling We do little hardware projects occasionally. Off the top of my head we soldered together a custom cable so that we could use a microcontroller to talk to a GBA over the link cable port, that was fun. We diagnosed and fixed our broken gamecube controller once. We even have used a multimeter. But I don't know what the symbols on it mean, I have to look up which one I want. I think I recognize the one for resistance but I'm extremely not confident. I know that you can set the power of 10 scale you expect to get useful readings, but I don't have any idea how.

You constantly expect yourself to live up to standards you don't hold other people to, and you use language to do it that makes "feeling bad about yourself" a deeper habit. Having new things to learn isn't a failure, that's called being alive. Everyone has gaps in their knowledge, everyone is missing basics, and it sucks to see my friends online hurting themselves about it for things that I don't even know either. We're both getting by and we both learn the things we need to learn. And you're actively asking questions, which is good! You're learning and you should be proud of that but you don't know how to be proud of yourself so you're ashamed instead. I wish you could see how unfair you're being to yourself, I don't know how to help you with that. But it hurts to sit on the sideline and watch you actively cause harm to yourself like this so I wanted to say something.

You can believe me or not but I needed to know I said something. I'm sorry that's all I've got.

@vaporeon_ @amy why are you trying to purrove you’re stupid to me. (ftr, you will not succeed at this)

@aescling @amy Well, you started arguing with me that I'm not

@vaporeon_ @aescling @amy ok, I started using A around the same time and I still don’t use I and half the time I don’t even use a