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teardrops under the eyes are a very explicit sheikah symbol so it’s interesting to see Zelda wearing them

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generally i really like the aesthetic so far, it feels actually unique and interesting as opposed to breath of the wild which was extremely generic. the world seems bigger, which i’m sure is partially because i have 0 fast-travel capabilities right now (AND no paraglider [but i do have a dope horse]), but i think also is because they aren’t afraid to make getting places difficult, whereas Breath of the Wild was very “if you can see it, you can get there” as a guiding principle. i like riding along and seeing bokoblins going about their daily business in their bokoblin camps. being able to just chuck a firebomb at an enemy is hella dope.

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the beginning is really laden with symbolism which i’m sure goes over everyone’s heads who didn’t spoil themselves. you get the rewind ability in the temple of time from zelda, the sage of time, which makes sense if you know zelda IS the sage of time and travelled to the past and such but like, if you don’t know that you’re just left feeling like “why did i go to this temple just to meet this apparition of zelda which doesn’t even speak and unlocks a new game mechanic?? why wasn’t it just in a shrine like the other ones??” and it feels arbitrary. it’s because she’s the sage of time. that’s why

rauru’s dialogue mostly makes no fucking sense and it’s best not to think too hard about it

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it’s very interesting that (a) they went with two Zonai sages and zero Sheikah sages, and (b) they replaced the Shadow and Forest sages with Lightning and Wind. this brings the total number of sages ever named in the games all the way up to TEN (including also Earth from Wind Waker)

i think the whole sage situation is bad and kind of messed up. it doesn’t align with the existing affinities from previous games. they retconned out the Gerudo out of being the Spirit people, moved the Rito from Earth to Wind, de-Saged the Sheikah and Koroks, and generally simplified the thing to be about “what element do you control” which i think trivializes the concept.

this poses really annoying problems for me personally in trying to figure out historiographically what the fuck is going on. at the very least it suggests that there are two gerudo tribes (??!), and the situation with the rito and the koroks doesn’t have an obvious answer (although i’m more willing to just discard Wind Waker’s sages tbh).

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i already had a running theory that Ganondorf was not actually Gerudo but that theory presumed that he was Yiga instead and associated with Shadow. it doesn’t reconcile the Lightning~Spirit split

Lightning has been associated with the desert before but that was when it was considered a part of LANAYRU province. (Worth noting that Skyward Sword really fucks up the elemental associations in general though.) Lanayru in BotW/TotK is associated with ICE, which, importantly, is an element which still does not have a sage (waiting for the return of the Anouki 🥲)

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ALSO HEY GUESS WHAT if Zelda The Light Dragon is descended from Zelda The Sage then that means that the OTHER three dragons could ALSO symbolize sages. You can pretty easily say Naydra is Ice and Dinraal is Earth and Farosh is Forest but this doesn't REALLY line up; Dinraal is pretty strongly Fire-elemental and Farosh is pretty strongly Lightning-elemental. the latter also speaks to a larger problem which is that they split up Storms into Wind and Lightning; Faron has past associations primarily with Wind (but they pushed that onto the Rito) and Lightning USED to go along with it (but not anymore??)

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it’s really very silly BotW was like “there are three elemental powers in Zelda: Fire, Ice, and Electricity” and then TotK was like “that means we need a Lightning sage”, but ignored Ice and replaced it two new elements Wind and Water

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THERE WERE ALREADY POWERFUL ELEMENTAL BEINGS, THEY WERE THE DRAGONS, YOU CAN’T JUST PASTE ANOTHER SET ON TOP OF THEM THAT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE

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mostly the reason this all annoys me is that the involvement of the Zonai places that part of the legend very early in Zelda mythological tradition, which means that the stuff in e.g. Ocarina of Time has to develop FROM this bullshit and not the other way around

you can do a LITTLE bit of “people got it wrong in the retelling” but that’s subtractive, not additive; people didn’t get it wrong and invent a whole new type of sage

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i just want you to know that before TotK was released all signs were pointing to the Hylians fucking the Rito not the Zonai and the latter is wildly inconsistent with most of the existing symbolism in the games

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i really don’t think i can toss this one like Hylia’s statue has fucking wings

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i don’t like that they made Zelda an Official Princess but her diary had a line which was like “it’s the people’s job to rebuild. it’s my job to protect them” which i thought was a very interesting mentality

them making her into a schoolteacher was very lol; glad nintendo in all their wisdom has decided to make their female lead’s passion be raising kids

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it’s a better game without the paraglider and they were cowards for including it

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no i haven't spoken to purah yet

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having things be easy to climb but hard to descend just adds so much more fun puzzle to the game

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OH FUCK THE OLD RITO SAGE HAS A DRAGON HAT

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she absolutely wants to become a dragon the second mineru mentions it

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interesting that Sonia is described as “Hyrulean” not “Hylian”—implying that Hylia worship isn’t a thing yet

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also wow they really decided to make Ganondorf sympathetic in this one huh

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@Lady yeah but restricting the player fur fun and profit is antithetical to the core design ideals of breath of the wild and its expansions

though at least they restrict you at all in the shrines

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@aescling i think it is antithetical to botw but i think it is NOT antithetical to totk. they just didn't want to deal with reviewers harshing on the game for having a challenge

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@aescling it is strongly implied from memories 6 and 7 that the zonai have been subjugating everyone by force thanks to the awesome power of their secret stones

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@aescling to me the cinematography in memory 7 is really not subtle. rauru is a colonialist fuck speaking from a place of power / advanced war technology and ganondorf understands completely that the only way for his people to have freedom is for him to manage to acquire a secret stone for himself

this isn't untrue in other incarnations of ganondorf re: the triforce but it's usually a lot more subtle than rauru blasting ganondorf's entire army off the side of the mountain with a beam of light

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