i will qualify this by saying that in college i did know people, and was for a time a person, who couldn't run the latest apps because they had an iPhone 3GS (which couldn’t run iOS 7), and i would also like to say that this situation lost Apple large amounts of dollars in potential app sales and i don't think they are keen on replicating it

@Satsuma a lot of people like to use apple as an example of planned obsolescence because they assume that the closed garden and lack of serviceability means they constantly make you buy new ones

when actually it's that the reason they are able to do the closed garden and lack of serviceability because they last a good long time

@Lady ah

I do know a lot of people who do buy apple phones on like a 2 yr upgrade cycle just bc they want the new fancy camera/processor/screen/etc so it’s not like apple even needs to force it by making shitty devices

@Satsuma i think that was a bigger deal in the past but now it's like… a 2019 iPhone has everything you could really want in a phone lbr. they're adding slightly better cameras and better VR capabilities but unless you care about that phones have mostly peaked.

so i think they're transitioning into more of a long-term approach to them like they take with their laptops. they make most of their money off of apps anyway; it's to their benefit if people with old phones can still buy new apps

@Lady yeah I mean I felt a bit of pressure to upgrade my SE (2016) because the web is getting so annoyingly bloated

But you’re right that I may well be very happy with my mini 5 years from now when it’s the same age