I timed my stardew math script and it took 733968 milliseconds to run 1,000,000 simulations for a farm with 116 plants and 125 casks. That is about 12 minutes and 14 seconds
@wallhackio Sherclod Holmes, are you still solving the case of "Starfruit Wine" versus "Ancient Fruit Wine"?
@lapis I am satisfied with my conclusion to the case
@wallhackio So who did it. I gotta know
@lapis ancient fruit will always eventually outsell star fruit but it takes about 4-5 months, at minimum, for ancient fruit to outsell star fruit. given that the typical casual perfection run is anywhere between 4-7 in-game years this is a reasonable time frame for a non-speedrunner or challenge run youtuber
however, when the farms get larger ancient fruit takes considerably longer to overcome star fruit because of the time spent turning ancient fruits into seeds. A greenhouse with four iridium sprinklers and ancient fruit will only outsell a star fruit farm of the same size after almost 3 years, which starts to be an amount of time that might not be worth it
EXCEPT a star fruit farm of this size is a MASSIVE initial cost because of how expensive star fruit seeds are. A greenhouse full of star fruits and iridium sprinklers that you constantly replant, turning all into iridium-quality wine or selling unaged wine if all casks are full, will lose over 100k in profits from seed purchases alone. It takes more than 1 in-game month for such a star fruit farm to start returning profits
You tend to have 100k to burn once you get a late-game wine farm going so i don't think a star fruit farm at a large scale is practical for the casual player seeking perfection. But for speedrunners and challenge runners who can easily perfection in two years star fruit is the clear better choice
TL:DR pierre did it send him to jail
@wallhackio Uh actually didn't Sandy do it Pierre doesn't sell starfruit
@lapis I remember coriander and tawaret were having a conversation the other day talking about "who on earth was hoping to marry sandy" and i was like, me! i was! 
@wallhackio @lapis me!!!!!
@wallhackio @lapis literally what do these people have against sandy she's so nice
@cam @wallhackio if I had to guess it's more there's just not that much to her right now (I mean, I might be wrong, I'm barely in the desert so I don't have a strong relationship with her) so it's like "Emily's friend who likes flowers and is probably cool with vaccinating your kids*" but there's not much dialogue so far there.
Maybe after I reach floor 100 in the skull caverns??? 🤷
- Emily is definitely an anti-vaxxer. probably anti-flouride in water too.
@lapis @wallhackio no I just think she seems cool. i would like emily if she wasn't nuts. i liked her pre-her becoming a marriage candidate and getting events
@wallhackio @lapis she looks like she drinks alkaline water
@wallhackio @lapis and genuinely believes in horoscopes and refuses to talk to geminis or whatever sign they hate
@cam @wallhackio I mean I have nothing against Sandy (I like her better than Clint) I think part of the problem is there aren't really any other female characters you could feasibly add as bachelorettes unless you make one up or break up a marriage
(Let's not forget: Robin was a choice in the 1.1 Bachelorette poll. This could have happened. People wanted Anti-vaxxer emily more)
(I kid but I would never break up robin and demetrius)
@lapis @wallhackio i would break them up. I'm better than him. Let me fuck robin
@lapis @wallhackio just one chance robin I'm infinitely better than this lame ass MAN
@cam @wallhackio Demetrius is kinda boring but I will take the autistic rep I can get
@lapis @wallhackio i was mildly annoyed by his extremely pedantic "buying tomatoes when being asked to purchase some fruit" thing
@cam @wallhackio if I had to guess, he was probably thinking of whatever science he was doing when he left, and grabbed the closest fruit (tomatoes) in a flakey-mood
@lapis @wallhackio but at the grocery store apples are always closer to the entrance than tomatoes
@cam @wallhackio I can't remember Pierre's layout (also this is the man who probably enters wax fruit into the grange festival if you crunch the numbers) so I'm just gonna say Demetrius was wandering, looking at seeds, thinking about strawberries, saw that fucker Pierre doesn't carry strawberries (Festival only which is BULLSHIT) and wanted to go home to like precipitate some titrate or something sciencey and grabbed the closest fruit- tomato
@cam @wallhackio ooh you know what could be a good thing to add?
Make MARNIE a candidate
but the thing is she's not serious about you (at least to start) it's more about some fake-dating scheme to get Lewis to legitimize their relationship
and maybe it can work out that way!
Or maybe you can marry Marnie and adopt Jas
@lapis @wallhackio there's a stardew valley expanded character that I really want to marry but she's not even friendable
@lapis I'd be pretty surprised if I end up liking sandy more than haley, after marrying haley I am very Normal about haley
@wallhackio Haley is so good 😭
(Is Haley tsundere or just a bitchy person to start with? We are not having this conversation as it would never end)
@lapis have you ever seen Fiona Sangster's stardew valley character deep dives? they're quite enjoyable and made me like most of the characters a lot more
Personally I think Haley at the beginning of the game hadn't learned what empathy is yet. She genuinely doesn't understand the world outside of herself. Her character arc is her interest in the player causing to learn to start thinking about how other people work and that differing perspectives are valid.
I don't think she realizes her comments at the beginning of the game are kind of cruel.
Also my experience with Haley was unusual. I didn't have the usual dialogue you are supposed to have where she insults you when you first meet her. My time ever talking to her was when she takes pictures in Cindersap Forest and the game says "she does not seem to notice you are there." And I was like "oh cool, we stan a queen who is autistic about her hobbies"
That being said, if you don't like Haley because she is an ass when you first meet her that is fine. Ignorance is not a defense for cruelty.
@wallhackio Link these videos I want to watch (another time)
@lapis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlCAOJKTC80
she has a three hour video on shane and it is only part 1
@lapis she has videos on every marriage candidate, say goodbye to 30 hours of your life
@wallhackio will do probably when I need a break from the farm but am waiting for 1.7
@wallhackio I know in my case with Haley it's more like I have a weird fascination / like of dating women who are bitches but sapphic in games (I know this would be much simpler if I just expanded it to "Tsundere Ladies" but it's MORE than that)
@wallhackio CHEATING ON HALEY????*
seriously though you'll have to tell me how she is. I'm probably gonna date her because I'm curious because my interactions with her so far have been p boring and static
(no I will not date clint unless he has like a 2 star event where he permanently becomes a completely different person)