one of those weird things about math is that i “know basic calculus” in that i know the fundamental differential rules, but i feel like i don’t really “know calculus” in that i could not even begin to explain why they work

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@aescling if you use the limit definition of the derivative and approximate to lowest order in dx you can straightforwardly make a physicist's derivation of all the rules like the product rule and the division rule and many differention rules like the power rule or derivatives of sines and cosines

@wallhackio @aescling I never even took linear algebra, I barely squeaked through pre-calc, failed calc 1, and then changed majors and then dropped out and went to community college where I could take good old regular algebra and then never need to take math again

@coriander @aescling in my opinion they should ban going to college if you have undiagnosed ADHD

@wallhackio @aescling Pffft, could a person with undiagnosed ADHD do THIS?

-puts off a 5-page paper for weeks, then writes it all in a single night, somehow still getting a B+-

@wallhackio @aescling Yes-and I personally think the multi-variable forms are much easier to understand, and justify all the weird results and derivative tricks you have to memorize in single-variable calc.

I wish more people would teach it first, though there's probably a fair bit of "suspension of disbelief"-style "just go with this" needed at the start since the real-world applications aren't immediately obvious if you start with multiple variables.

@aschmitz @aescling yeah I was surprised to find that the multivariate definition of the limit is actually easier to picture!

@wallhackio @aescling (Also I'm pretty sure I've said this before, probably to the same people, sorry, but the multi-variable chain rule makes all of the "derivative of {addition, multiplication, division, exponentiation, logarithm, etc}" stuff make a lot more sense, at least if you can understand those as multivariable functions themselves. (Which is easy for me, but I also program computers and grok RPN, so I can't vouch for it being intuitive to most people.)

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