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Standing in support of American Civil Religion but believing it should be kept away from certain social functions due to Separation Of Church And State.
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@gaditb yeah i agree with this largely; i think this is how many progressives view patriotism
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@Lady Is "voting is a moral obligation" not part of [some denominations of] American Civil Religion?
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@Satsuma @Lady Not that it is enforced, especially against major Christian groups, but iirc "preaching politics from the pulpit" -- endorsing a specific candidate as part of a religious service -- is a violation of the separation of church and state.
Which is not quite there, but I think depending on where you draw the lines around American Civil Religion as a piece of society you'll easily include specific candidate endorsements?
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@gaditb @Satsuma but that would just be an argument against American Civil Religion as a religion instead of a political institution
if you want to argue it is a religion, under the American constitutional understanding of religiosity, you have to argue it is not political. the aspects which are political obviously can be made subject to politics
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@gaditb @Lady this isn’t a tenet of my religion so i do not feel strongly about the specifics of execution but if, hypothetically, the pope came out and was like “i feel it is a moral duty that everyone always vote, even when doing so is largely symbolic” that would not be an issue of separation of church and state because the pope is not the government, even if he is encouraging people to take actions which will impact the makeup of the government.
similarly as long as the authority for american civil religion directing people to vote is not the government this is also not an issue of separation of church and state. and the government is currently quite anti voting so i feel safe to assume this is the case