Y'all are surprising me with your programming opinions

Then again, JavaScript or whatever apparently has a Math.max function, while C doesn't

@wallhackio Are you referring to yourself or to me or to us all?

@vaporeon_ I'm referring to anyone who writes code for money instead of writing code for fun

@vaporeon_ this is not a slight on Holly. i hope that is clear. she does code golf so you know she actually likes coding for the hell of it

@wallhackio @vaporeon_ oh yeah all this goes out the window when you're golfing. sometimes it's fun to let loose and write some horseshit

@monorail @vaporeon_ my worst code practices occur when i hack a solution to a challenging data structures/algorithms problem

@wallhackio How can you have bad code practices when there's no such thing as good Java code, it's all terrible

@vaporeon_ I've done DS&A problems in JavaScript and written some nightmarish oneliners doing that

@wallhackio Your work has you write both Java and JavaScript? :psyduck:

@wallhackio Your company's server backend is written in Java?

@vaporeon_ I am currently not working there, I was laid off in June, but yes it was

This is actually extremely normal since Java was extremely popular during the dot.com boom of the late 90's/early 2000's and the most appealing alternative was C++, so obviously people used Java instead

An enormous amount of critical codebases run on Java

@wallhackio I thought PHP was the typical language for writing web server backends?

@vaporeon_ Maybe that was true at one time, but it would be unusual today

@wallhackio I once talked to a computer toucher and they told me that their backend was also written in JavaScript and I thought that's incredibly cursed

@vaporeon_ I love JavaScript so I have mixed feelings about it

@vaporeon_ you'd be stunned by the performance that JIT engines can achieve these days, they can get stuff that is close-ish to Java sometimes

Most people who do it write the codebase in TypeScript, which is a language that looks a hell of a lot like JS but it strictly typed, and is compiled to JavaScript (I have extremely mixed feelings about TypeScript)

There is just a huge cost to running a server with JS though (either you use a JIT engine which has a significant memory cost or you don't and get a huge performance cost), which makes me hard-pressed to ever consider it for a web server

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