Sad, but we might as well be preaching to the choir. These same girls will continue to misbehave and ignore warnings and advice.

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@MondayMarionJ 🤨 after all the rubbish at the Airport with JK, I won't be shocked if they try. Perhaps it's time to arrest them for stalking. It's been made clear.

@GQB @MondayMarionJ

I saw them mobbing JK - that was scary! I'm thinking Incheon is going to have to stop letting anyone inside without a ticket, because that's just out of control.

@tikistitch @GQB @MondayMarionJ People are organising buses wrapped in huge photos of each Tannie to go park outside of the enlistment centres, and arguing that because those buses are not full of crazy sasaengs it's fine. Because a bus with a giant face on it is not a distraction at all. 🤷🏻‍♀️

And of course, cue screaming at each other on the bird app over it. Oh dear! None of it is a good look. 🙄

@pixelcats @tikistitch @GQB I wish I could slap the people who are setting this up for the enlistment day. It's just deplorable. Oh, they didn't mean US! They meant the rules for OTHER people! 😮😡

@MondayMarionJ @pixelcats @GQB

It's all a bit scary, because it seems people go especially bonkers over the maknae line.

@tikistitch @MondayMarionJ @GQB They really do. It's all awful. I think the bus stuff happened for Jin and Hobi's enlistment too, but now it's 4x and the last ones, so it's even more hyped. I hope nothing crazy or dangerous goes on.

Sidenote, it's got me feeling really alienated in my favourite group chats, where they're all into fighting the bus people, which feels futile and depressing too. Thank goodness for the FediArmy!

@pixelcats @tikistitch @MondayMarionJ for all the money these folks spend on this stuff buses birthday signs etc WTF do they do for a living? I mean I adore these men but if I wanted to do something I'd donate to a charity in their name or something like that.

@pixelcats @tikistitch @MondayMarionJ besides the money who has time to randomly take off to head to an airport and wait for them to walk past. I mean if I was in an AP for travel and saw them cool cool but go purposefully go wait and then crowd around them knowing it bothers them not cool. I just don't understand

@GQB @tikistitch @MondayMarionJ All of this. So weird!

@pixelcats @GQB @tikistitch @MondayMarionJ
extremely long thread incoming -

some are incredibly wealthy/living off their parents' money, but most are just normal people. if you have 5000 people and everyone gives a dollar you can easily hire a bus for a day, customise a wraparound decal, and still have money left over to buy the driver all the coffee he can drink.

i think it's worth noting that it's a very different culture. fansupport is a very well established practice, of 'showing up' [1/]

@pixelcats @GQB @tikistitch @MondayMarionJ for your idol and show them they are loved, sometimes also when others are present. in c-idol fandom, which learnt from k-idol practices, i've seen fans organise support for their idols when they are in serial dramas - to mark the start of filming, important festival days, changing of the seasons, end of filming. sometimes it is as simple as buying bubble tea for the entire cast and crew. at wrap parties, it is expected that it will go into [2/]

@pixelcats @GQB @tikistitch @MondayMarionJ massive cake, drink, flowers. thoughtful fansupport organisations (as they are different from fanclubs) may think of something special, such as care packs as the seasons change. especially to thank the crew for taking care of your idol, and for giving the idol the opportunity to shine on screen. there is also a thinking (perhaps erroneously? perhaps backed by evidence?) it needs to be significant enough so the idol doesn't lose 'face'. [3/]

@pixelcats @GQB @tikistitch @MondayMarionJ if the organised fansupport is not big enough, a producer or investor at the wrap party may question if the idol was indeed big enough to be worth getting on the show, and the idol may lose opportunities. (i am using the word idol quite loosely. not all of them are idol-track. perhaps i just mean anyone with lots of fans.)

from what i can see, this isn't much different from wanting to feel part of a community and of something bigger than yourself. [4/]

@yesterdaychild @pixelcats @GQB @tikistitch @MondayMarionJ yeah in a general sense it's not to different from other ways in which fans try to show support for artists they like and ensure they're successful--streaming a ton so songs will chart, voting in award shows, etc. And I've definitely thought some of the fanprojects for Idols' birthdays etc have been very cool!

But I do wish that when Hybe / the idols themselves were explicitly like 'this is personal, not a fan thing', fandom took that a little more seriously—I guess I feel like personally part of supporting an artist is letting them have their privacy about some things

@Satsuma @pixelcats @GQB @tikistitch @MondayMarionJ it's difficult to see it as purely a private affair when fans of other idols have always turned up in the hundreds or thousands for enlistment/completion days. in that sense the prevailing practice has set it up as a gray area. and in some sense, from fan perspective, it is 'losing' that person to service, is it not? certainly that is the argument i have seen a lot of intl army express when they talk about enlistment. much more so perhaps

@Satsuma @pixelcats @GQB @tikistitch @MondayMarionJ for k-fans who have more access to the idol in person, at shows and events and such. the line and intimacy level is much more blurred when you are seeing your idol every couple of weeks and come to think of them as a person you do know.

fwiw i remember watching a BBC news report on jin's enlistment day, and i didn't see a bus in the background, or maybe didn't notice it? so i was surprised to read today that there were buses for jin.

@Satsuma @pixelcats @GQB @tikistitch @MondayMarionJ certainly that seems like something very visual that would have been captured by a gawking news camera, especially as the piece was about fan reactions. (they probably had hoped to capture hordes of fans and chaos but only a handful turned up... the kind who would say jin is their husband and believe it. good on k-army, really.)