i felt all cool for knowing how the sound in mandarin that gets romanized as "zh" is pronounced, until someone told me that the one thing i ever said that included it is actually an exception that's pronounced differently
apparently shenzhen is just "first syllable of shenanigans, first syllable of jennifer" which is not what i was doing
@monorail Hm. I wonder how often "zh" is pronounced "dʒ" - it's that way in Xiran Jay Zhao's name, too.
@noelle @monorail (it sounds like /dz/ and /dʒ/ to english ears because they aren't aspirated (whereas c and ch are) but technically chinese does not voice any of its consonants [excepting nasals/liquids/semivowels])