@witchfynder_finder marx says that when man is alienated from its labour and consequently from itself, as under capitalism, it ceases to view itself as part of nature and rather nature becomes a means to an end for man
resolving the alienation of labour from man also resolves the alienation of man from man, resolving the alienation of man from nature
in such a world, man and nature need not be viewed as competing forces but rather as working in harmony. expanding the reach of man is merely expanding the harmonization of man with the natural world
@Lady I think that's fair, and definitely I'm not here to advocate for Space Capitalism by any means, but also, like, if it became cost-effective to mine iron or something from Mars, I think it would be perfectly okay to do so, especially if it lessened the environmental impact on Earth, the place where we actually live
@witchfynder_finder agreed, earth is also a part of nature and a pretty important one, too me
@witchfynder_finder the stance against resource extraction etc on other planets makes more sense when you think of it as “every action a capitalist takes on a foreign planet that a communist wouldn't is a loss of a part of nature that we will never get back”
of course this needs to be weighed against other needs, but the most expedient solution is simply to end capitalism before these questions become relevant
@Lady No arguments from me there
@witchfynder_finder i think what people primarily fear is not man reaching other planets, but capitalism