re: stupid question
@vaporeon_ @monorail I'm looking into this and this seems to be related to how Pokemon games, starting from Black and White, calculate speed if the move "Trick Room" is used, which inverts turn order so that slow pokemon go first.
Specifically, the game subtracts the speed stat from 10000 and if the number is above 8191, it then subtracts 8192 from that number to get the new "Trick Room"ed speed
This means that if your speed stat is at least 1809, then after Trick Room is applied, the 8192 penalty is not applied. This means pokemon can be so fast they simply overpower Trick Room against slow pokemon