things you say when you're living with a roommate/not with your parents for the first time:

oh also just as a general thing: how do you feel about soup?
i feel like i could get into soup
i could have a soup era

@monorail seek me for my arcane stocks and powerful broths ms. monorail

@The_T @monorail 1. ok so the salt makes it fuck nasty but watch out

  1. most likely scenario is you are adding too much salt/salt based ingredients and then reducing it too much, either add less salt or more water to dilute the stock

  2. compensate for using less salt by using more herbs and spices (e.g. rosemary and thyme for irish chicken soup)

@Breakfast @monorail this sounds like too much work for not enough value

@The_T @monorail

1.that's the devil talking

2.ok so this step is in fact so easy, it is part of making a lot of canned soup (e.g. campbells), you fill up the can with water and dump that into the pot

@Breakfast @monorail

I mean every can I've seen says not to do this, and honestly I'd rather learn to make real soup than make fucked up evil canned soup

@The_T @monorail well making soup from scratch is indeed more trouble than making canned soup, but if the cans of soup you are buying say not to do this, you can still dilute the stock, you might not use the whole can's volume of water

if you are cooking to taste, be it your own or someone else's, you are the one who writes the procedure

@Breakfast @monorail the trouble is cooking to taste and cooking to health are such incredibly difficult things to balance because I don't have any good barometer for what health is besides what it says on the nutritional facts

@The_T @monorail @Breakfast you take a big ass chicken and you stick it in a pot with carrots and onions and celery and some herbs and you cook it and then you take out the chicken and chop that bitch up and then you put some of the chopped up chicken in with new vegetables and the chicken stock you made and then you add noodles at the end and you have chicken noodle soup

@Breakfast @The_T @monorail bonus points if you can add a carcass you’ve saved from another chicken because then you get more nutrience and a thicker stock

@monorail @The_T @Breakfast you can also start from a carcass and veggies only (I recommend more than one carcass bc you don’t get a lot of stock from just one) and then freeze the stock for later use or throw in rotisserie chicken meat to make it into soup right away

@The_T @Breakfast @monorail if you refrigerate that shit it will be like a jello from all of the marrow contents that have become one with the stock

@cam @Breakfast @monorail hi this sounds horrifying

and chicken soup is like my least favorite kind of soup

@The_T @Breakfast @monorail basically all homemade soup stock from meat becomes jello though

that’s actually how they make soup dumplings, the soup is congealed when they make the dumpling and when they steam it it becomes liquid

@cam @Breakfast @monorail is making a cheese soup like, making a roux; I did that once to make homemade mac and cheese and it was so not worth the effort

@Breakfast @The_T @monorail idk I’m lactose intolerant so I don’t make those or ill shit my pants

@cam @Breakfast @monorail ok so here's my hot take:

making a roux: not worth it
shitting your pants: worth it

@Breakfast @The_T @monorail honestly shitting your pants gets very old after a while especially because it’s like fighting for your life diarrhea that ruins your life for several hours

@cam @Breakfast @monorail I've been there and I have no idea what caused it or what fixed it

but I'm sorry you have to miss out on cheese

@Breakfast @The_T @monorail I do eat some cheese but I don’t care a ton about cheese anyway

I'm sorry 

@wallhackio @cam @Breakfast @monorail doctor doctor, give me the news, I got a bad case of, cheese-induced poos

@wallhackio @cam @The_T @monorail it's ok you can report me instead I don't have a dietary reason for not liking the majority of cheese I just think it has the texture of rubber

@Breakfast @wallhackio @cam @monorail fresh mozzarella kicks ass and is incredible. cheap store mozzarella is still good because mozzarella is that good.

@The_T @wallhackio @cam @monorail living so close to france and the netherlands as I do, good, fresh cheese is very much readily available a lot of it is just wasted on me because I am super finicky about cheese texture

@Breakfast I really don't know how you get from Orlando to France, how they're so close

@The_T so I did move in october, I believe this was known to you

@Breakfast yeah but like, moving to Europe is a big move, how'd you even manage it, convince them you belonged there

@The_T @Breakfast it’s not super hard for academics, easiest for post docs probably because you can just say you have a completely unique and highly specialized skillset so whoever is hiring you needs to hire you specifically

@Breakfast @The_T but for graduate programs you can kinda just enroll and get a visa in a lot of places

@cam @Breakfast I'm so blessed because I'm too stupid to get into a graduate program (I managed to get an AA! I hated it!) and then just be born to a Canadian parent.

@The_T @cam tbh I don't think your tolerance for academia is a question of intelligence, I just happen to be some kind of masochist

@Breakfast @cam yeah; sorry, I do say "I'm too stupid to--" alot because the type of intelligence I have is so radically different from the majority of fedi. Sure, I am clever, I've lived a ton of really awful life experiences and learned a lot from them. But everyone on here programs and goes to graduate school and I am about neither of those things.

@Breakfast @The_T I honestly only know a handful of people on here who are/have been in a masters or PhD program and programming is just a specific skill set, which yes requires some level of intelligence but I think a lot of people could learn to code if they had an interest and good resources available to them

@Breakfast @The_T not to invalidate how you feel though, I feel insecure about my intelligence because most people here are light years better at programming than me and are honestly probably smarter/more quick witted

@cam @Breakfast I am definitely just. Too stressed, care about too many other things, and a bit too ADHD to ever learn. It's also a little bit "that ship has sailed".

I'm not even working right now and I'm still not getting a ton done each day, but I blame that on "still recovering" from the move, and I like to think I'm getting a little bit more done each day...

@The_T @Breakfast oh yeah, I didn’t mean to suggest that you need to learn it or anything

moving and travel both take a lot out of you, I get it, better to rest and recover than to push yourself and burn out

@cam @Breakfast oh no, you didn't. Lots of other people have suggested I need to, though. :P

@The_T @cam so fwiw I did almost drop out two or three times

like academia is largely a question of "do you have a certain skillset and are you willing to commit to a certain set of arbitrary expectations" and at least for me this is the hell I can live with

@Breakfast @cam I did drop out, but then I went back, yeah.

The degree hasn't actually helped me in life I don't feel like. Maybe it will in Canada. :P

@The_T @cam so they did tell people for a long time that "oh yeah a degree will guarantee you a good job" and that is definitely no longer true

but my point is more you gotta determine your own path, the reason I have kept going back to school could probably be described as stockholm syndrome, and I'd be smoking a special kind of crack if I were to imply it's a good plan for everybody

@Breakfast @cam yeah, totally. It's my mom's fault (she said all those things) that is the reason I went back. I should have listened to myself and not returned. 🤷

It just wasn't for me, but I was so aimless back then that I don't think it accounted to lost time, just lost money...

Which is I why I fled to Canada, to not have to deal with my student debt! :D

@The_T @Breakfast I could go on a monologue about how degrees or lack thereof aren’t necessarily indicative of intelligence but I will refrain. what is AA

@cam @Breakfast sorry, Associate of Arts Degree. Basic college degree. My major was "Human Communications", which is basically: nothing.

@The_T so very shortly after I moved into my apartment I was at the train station and some turkish guys having a conversation amongst themselves gestured over at me and said "ireland, part of europe" and continued their discussion in turkish

@Breakfast lmao that is not proof of citizenship

I guess maybe it is easier in Europe than Canada

@The_T oh you meant the customs people

so I am here on a graduate visa

@onfy @The_T @wallhackio @cam @monorail so I did in fact say that good cheese is wasted on me because I don't like it

I live close enough to gouda that it's part of the local specialty I just think it tastes like rubber and has an unpleasant acrid taste

@monorail @wallhackio @The_T @onfy @Breakfast what about cheeses that are soft or crumbly, those don’t have a rubber texture

@cam @monorail @wallhackio @The_T @onfy I do in fact like those

if it's sufficiently creamy, or sufficiently hard my body has an easy time parsing it as food, but there's like a dead zone of rubbery cheese that happens to encompass most of central europe

@Breakfast @cam @monorail @wallhackio @The_T i used to like jarlsberg from denmark, not sure it's still made though

@onfy @cam @monorail @wallhackio @The_T they still make jarlsberg but german wikipedia says it's norwegian

that's of the swiss emmenthaler style which oddly enough is actually hit or miss for me

@Breakfast @cam @monorail @wallhackio @The_T when i used to get it i swear it said "product of denmark", weird

@onfy @cam @monorail @wallhackio @The_T denmark and norway are close enough that it doesn't shock me in the least that they are making jarlsberg cheese in denmark, but in the event you can't get the danish stuff any longer you might still be able to get the norwegian

@Breakfast @cam @monorail @wallhackio @The_T it costs a lot anyway, i just ended up switching to local cheeses which i guess kind of are a bit more rubbery often

our cheesemaking is... lacking

@onfy @cam @monorail @wallhackio @The_T I'm a little surprised to hear that about ontario, I might've thought that the proximity to wisconsin might've inspired something

@onfy @cam @monorail @wallhackio @The_T they are known for their cheese,
mostly dutch varieties that I don't particularly care for, but they have the reputation nonetheless

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@Breakfast @onfy @cam thought this reply was about student debt and not cheese at first

@The_T @onfy @cam so I do have a background in food history and anthropology if you want to cross the streams

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@Breakfast @onfy @wallhackio @cam @monorail fwiw; goat cheese and feta, the "weirder European cheeses", are a bit too much for me... I think a good cheese complements the thing it goes with, it isn't so powerful it needs to stand on it's own.

@Breakfast @The_T @wallhackio @cam @monorail tbh i haven't gotten to have european cheese in ages, a little wedge costs like $12 here

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