@vaporeon_ what i understand is WhatsApp was always using (and still is using!) XMPP but without federation. i don’t remember if Facebook Messenger (diffurent service lol) ever used XMPP. i do know Google had an XMPP-based chat service at one point that did eventually stop federation entirely (and maybe moved off XMPP?) after a lot of people had moved onto it
@vaporeon_ this was befur they renamed it to Messenger