oh no, I'm not allowed to reuse some of the graphics in this app for commercial purposes
my freedoms are being infringed
@clarfonthey yeah I don't really care about that at all, the annoying thing here is license incompatibility
@eloy I mean, sure, this is a real problem but like
license compatibility only applies if you yourself are trying to reincorporate something. this isn't a library but an app, essentially the end of the software chain
even if you wanted to reuse the code from the app and sell it you could, and just have to change the graphics
@eloy like as far as I'm concerned license compatibility only matters for libraries which want to be reused in other places. all the licenses start to stack and make redistributing and reusing stuff complicated
but like, any end product is gonna have a bunch of different licenses in it. and CC-BY-NC-SA is, all things considered, an extremely permissive license. it's basically an artist giving you free reign to use their stuff as long as you credit them and don't sell it
I don't think people would throw the same fit if it were just CC-BY-SA, without the non-commercial restriction. it's just not being able to sell it that people don't like, and honestly, more software should have that restriction since companies want to take everyone's work for free
Lady, EVOLVED 
@clarfonthey @eloy (cc by-sa is indeed considered a free license: <https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/cc-by-4-0-and-cc-by-sa-4-0-added-to-our-list-of-free-licenses>)
the major problem with cc noncommercial licenses is that they preclude things like, for example, streaming using the application, making videos about the application, and other genuinely useful creative endeavours that you WANT people to be paid for aside from just literally repackaging the same exact product and turning a profit on it. of course, it can be argued (in the united states) that some of these uses are fair use, but it’s a lot more legally murky than a cc by-sa which allows any use so long as you ShareAlike
that's not to say by-nc-sa is Always Bad, but that it is definitely a compromise and you should carefully evaluate whether the good commercial uses you are forbidding are worthwhile collateral damage for the bad commercial uses you are trying to prevent
@clarfonthey @eloy once people realized “oh, people can’t blog about this and run ads on their blog without violating cc nc”, a lot of people shifted away from using it (for non-software products), and by-sa effectively requires that any commercial product to also be freely distributable, so
