but at the same time there are fairly indie, single-developer projects out there where the person in charge actually knows how to listen and communicate and it CAN work; there are projects i am subscribed to on github where i read about every message because the discussions are largely good and interesting
and then there are the projects run by people in tech who just wanted to make their idea a reality and selectively communicate with people who either already agree with them or meet some notability criteria they respect