Lady, EVOLVED 
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“i don't understand what precludes a good neutral evil”
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@Lady Desire to control others vs. Desire to improve the lives of others.
Various forms of authoritarian paternalism can be Evil Neutral Good or Evil Lawful Good (or probably Evil Chaotic Good, but I can't think of what specifics that would mean right now). ("Desire to control others in order to improve the lives of others", specific details depend on the flavor.)
... I'm not sure what Good Neutral Evil would be.
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@gaditb so you think what distinguishes good (d&d alignment) from evil (d&d alignment) is ends and not means
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@gaditb under your definitions, the good neutral evil character understands that material conditions are such that their aims are most achievable when people work together in solidarity over shared mutual interest. they do not care about “helping people” in the abstract, but materially, they believe that a mass perspective will do better for them than a perspective of individualism and manipulation. it so happens that a mass perspective is also, materially, what is best for people in general
does it really matter whether you are organizing a union because you are a disempowered worker who wants more power, or if you are organizing a union because you want what is best for society? in the end, disempowered workers getting more power IS what is best for society
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@gaditb (by poststructuralists i mean foucaultians and similar who oppose biopower/necropower/colonialism but don't view power relations as escapable)
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@Lady That's what I was thinking, also.
Those archetypes -- most pre-thought-out-ly tankie, but it can be applied to all of them depending on the specifics (I haven't thought through the specifics of the others*, to say what they are) -- are what I was thinking of as "Desire to control others in order to improve the lives of others", and categorizing as Evil Lawful(/other) Good.
(* also I... don't actually know what "poststructuralist" in the context of "similar to tankie/ancom" means.)