where does the trope of unwilling hero even come from
@Lady Joseph Campbell
@Lady Okay I don't actually know if this is true but Refusal of the Call is a big part of the Hero's Journey and I think some people have extrapolated that step a little too far
@Lady Could also be Tolkien, Bilbo is a very unwilling hero, but that's the Joke of that book so once again people are missing the point
@witchfynder_finder yeah i thought about frodo but the whole bloody point of lord of the rings is that frodo is unhappy but not unwilling
@Lady Yeah, Frodo wishes he had never left the Shire but as Ganfalf reminds him, so do all who live to see such times, so he just Does What He Must
@witchfynder_finder and the idea of hobbits being sterner stuff which can resist temptation and courageously face darkness and unbeatable odds because it is the necessary thing to do is the ACTUAL template of the Triforce of Courage stuff in Zelda games
idk i know it's a little thing but to me there's a world of different between "i don't want to do this" and "i wish i didn't have to do this"
@Lady No yeah I totally feel you
@witchfynder_finder trying to think of a single video game hero who refused a call
the call is why i'm playing the damn game lmao
@Lady Yeah, Campbell's structures really fall apart if you try to do video games
At MOST you might get a brief cutscene of "I don't know if I can do that" but then by the end of the cutscene they necessarily have to have changed their mind
it's very common in zelda fanfics to be all "oh woe is me i never wanted to be the hero but the goddess chose me and now i must" but like
why, where does that come from